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The Indicator from Planet Money

What's so bad about a trade deficit?

The Indicator from Planet Money

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🗓️ 8 April 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

President Trump claims a main goal of his crippling tariffs is to address the U.S. trade deficit. So is the U.S. trade deficit a problem? On today's show, why we'll never have a trade surplus with every single country; what the benefits of a trade deficit are; and whether or not the trade deficit affects jobs.

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0:00.0

NPR.

0:02.0

This is the indicator from Planet Money.

0:13.6

I'm Waylon Wong.

0:14.7

And I'm Darren Woods.

0:15.9

And I'm Adrienne Ma.

0:16.9

At the core of President Trump's earth-shaking tariffs is a belief that countries should not

0:22.4

sell stuff to the U.S. without buying more stuff in return. In other words, Trump hates that the U.S.

0:29.2

has trade deficits. Yeah. For the big tariff announcement last week, the administration actually

0:34.3

used the U.S. trade deficits with each country to figure out the size

0:38.9

of their new tariffs.

0:40.6

And when we talk about the trade deficit, it might conjure up images of closing car factories

0:46.9

and American workers losing their jobs.

0:50.0

But the reality is more complex.

0:52.6

In fact, the trade deficit on its own isn't necessarily the boogey man that Trump claims.

0:59.3

Today on the show, why the trade deficit is neither good nor bad.

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