Oh, so we're talking about mass social transformation through revolution?

Is that what we're thinking about here when we think about abolition?

That's the way I think about it.

During Trump's first term, he executed more federal death row inmates than 10 previous presidents combined.

Now that he's back in the Oval Office, promising ice raids, swiping out entire sections

of the Constitution, and insisting on public displays of lethal force, many are asking what

fresh horrors 2025 has in store, because apparently he was just getting warmed up.

This time around, Trump has proposed televised lynchings and executions for offenses so minimal.

You might blink twice just hearing it.

I'm Darren from Push the Block, and you're listening to Black History Year.

We have to be clear.

This country's relationship with the death penalty is drenched in blood.

And in the hands of a newly reelected president, one who once demanded capital punishment

for the then wrongfully accused Central Part 5, this power feels surreal and dangerous.

So how do we even get here? How do we reach a point where a president could so

casually weaponize a death penalty, pointing it like a toy gun? How can he still use it as a threat

against dissent? And how does U.S. history, the same one that cheered on lynch mobs and strung up

innocent men, still enabled this unchecked authority to persist today.

Our guest, William C. Anderson, is exactly the voice we need to navigate this important conversation.

He's an activist and writer whose co-authored book with Zoe Samudzi as Black as resistance

was described by a renowned prison abolitionist Miriam Kaba as a searing indictment of the

U.S. Souterlidolonian Project. His follow-up, the nation on no map, black anarchism,

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