What the First Known Survivor of China’s Forced Organ Harvesting Reveals: David Matas

American Thought Leaders

Jan Jekielek

Government, News, Politics

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🗓️ 9 September 2024

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

The first known survivor of China’s state-run forced organ harvesting regime recently went public with his story in Washington.

Peiming Cheng, who was imprisoned for 8 years and brutally tortured for practicing Falun Gong, was also forced to undergo surgery in November 2004. He woke up with a foot-long scar across his side.

Subsequent comprehensive medical examinations revealed he was missing a large part of his liver and a portion of his left lung.

And in a stunning admission, the Chinese regime has recently publicly acknowledged doctors operated on Cheng without his consent—supposedly to save his life.

So what is the significance of this case? And what’s next?

In this episode, I sit down with international human rights lawyer David Matas, who was among the first to independently investigate allegations of forced organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China.

I also speak to Robert Destro, who served as Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor and was instrumental in getting Cheng to America; former Congressman Frank Wolf, a fierce champion of human rights in his three decades in Congress; and Nina Shea, director of the Center for Religious Freedom at Hudson Institute.

Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guests, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.

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0:00.0	The first known survivor of China's state-run forced organ harvesting regime
0:04.7	recently went public with his story in Washington, D.C.
0:08.5	Back in November of 2004, Falun Gong practitioner Pe-Cheng was forced to undergo surgery and woke up with a foot-long
0:16.2	scar across his side.
0:18.6	As we were able to get Mr. Chank here in the United States, we were able to get independent experts to look inside and see what's missing.
0:26.7	Comprehensive medical examinations revealed he was missing a big part of his liver and a portion of his left lung. So what is the significance of this
0:35.5	case and what's next? In this episode I speak with international human rights lawyer David
0:40.5	Madis as well as several other leading human rights experts and advocates.
0:45.0	This machine is eating up the Chinese population, sort of group by group.
0:51.0	Madis was among the first to independently investigate allegations of forced organ harvesting
0:56.0	from felon gong practitioners.
0:57.7	If there are any American institutions involved, they should be told to stop, and if they do not stop then there ought to be litigation against them.
1:05.2	This is American Thought Leaders and I'm Yanya Kellick.
1:11.2	David made us such a pleasure to have you back on American thought leaders.
1:14.3	Glad to be back.
1:16.3	So David, never in a million years that I expect that I would meet an actual survivor of forced organ harvesting of this barbaric practice
1:27.8	that the Chinese regime has been involved in for decades. Tell me about Mr. Cheng's case.
1:35.0	I could see in terms of the raw data there's something there because he's obviously
1:39.6	felon-going practitioner.
1:41.4	He's obviously been ordered to harvest it because we've got the medical reports.
1:44.6	I mean, the x-rays don't lie.
1:46.1	And so I spent a fair amount of time basically just kind of getting the chronology, the names, and the dates and so on.
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