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The Rubin Report

What the Trump Administration Must Do Instead of Revenge | Peter Thiel

The Rubin Report

Emma Dog Productions

News Commentary, News, Politics

4.513.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” talks to Peter Thiel about Silicon Valley’s political shift and how Trump’s 2024 victory defied demographic expectations; his early support for JD Vance and the need to modernize Republican priorities; the growing influence of tech figures like Elon Musk and David Sacks in politics; how regulatory pressure pushed Big Tech to the left; whether Mark Zuckerberg’s recent political evolution is strategic or genuine; how dissatisfaction with woke policies has led to a broader realignment in the tech world; the shifting political landscape, including how figures like Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, and Tulsi Gabbard moved away from the left; the decline of elite credentialism within the Democratic Party; how institutions like Harvard have lost their influence in shaping political elites; the durability of universities compared to companies; why higher education reform is so complex; and whether new institutions can replace legacy ones in shaping future leadership; the collapse of media gatekeepers and the shift towards skepticism; the balance between dogmatism and skepticism in science, with modern institutions leaning too heavily on dogma; how scientific consensus has become politicized, discouraging debate on topics like climate science and COVID-19 origins; why mainstream academia may be more about securing funding than pursuing breakthroughs; and how hyper-specialization and peer review contribute to a stagnant scientific enterprise that resists fundamental challenges; and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I think the somewhat obnoxious suggestion I had was that we need something like a truth and reconciliation commission,

0:40.9

which was set up in post-apartheid South Africa, where, you know, as long as we got to the truth and we figured out what had happened, there can be reconciliation.

0:52.1

But the first step is we need to come clean,

0:55.2

we need to have some accountability for what happened.

1:00.0

And so I want, yeah, I want us, I don't want us to have lots of arrests.

1:06.1

I don't want lots of people to just get prosecuted.

1:09.6

But I do think we need to have a lot more transparency

1:14.4

into what exactly was going on in the sausage-making factory.

1:18.7

And my suspicion is that that sort of transparency

1:24.6

will very much discourage a repeat of this behavior.

1:36.6

All right, Peter Thiel, last time we did this was about a year and a half ago,

1:41.8

pre-Trump re-election. I would say the world was a little different.

1:45.0

The first time we ever sat down was 2018.

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