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Inside the Hive

What to Make of Joe Biden’s Legacy

Inside the Hive

Vanity Fair

News

4.21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2024

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Democrats effectively lost the 2024 presidential race a year earlier by rallying behind a deeply unpopular incumbent, New York Times politics reporter Astead Herndon argues in a frank discussion with host Brian Stelter about Joe Biden’s legacy. Herndon, who also hosts “The Run-Up” podcast, talks about how Democrats (and some in the media) missed major warning signs about how Biden’s age and accomplishments were perceived outside the D.C. bubble—and where the party goes next. 

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0:05.3

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0:38.6

Seth, let me try to have you fill in a blank.

0:41.6

The Democrats didn't lose this election in October 24.

0:46.0

They lost it in early 2020.

0:49.2

When they rallied around the re-election of Joe Biden back when there was a lot of evidence,

0:54.9

the country didn't want that.

0:57.2

That's Asted Herndon, national politics reporter for the New York Times and host of the

1:02.2

run-up podcast.

1:03.9

And I'm Brian Stelter.

1:05.9

Welcome to Inside the Hive from Vanity Fair.

1:08.7

This week, we're going inside Joe Biden's legacy because there is a

1:13.4

really interesting and for Democrats really painful reassessment underway. The man who once promised

1:20.7

to be a bridge to the next generation of Democratic leaders is now the bridge from one Trump

1:26.4

term to another. So to re-examine the Biden years,

1:30.4

given all that we know now, let's reevaluate what we were hearing from voters along the way.

1:36.2

I said, that's where you come in. You have stood out during this campaign cycle for your voter

1:42.0

interviews, your episodes of the run-up, your appearances

1:45.7

on CNN, talking about what voters are actually thinking and feeling. And as a result,

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