Welcome to what drives you. I'm Kevin Miller in this episode, What Voids are we trying to fill?

A couple episodes ago, in my conversation with Ian Morgan Cron about addiction and the benefits of 12 steps,

he started off talking about this great human ache that he says we all feel and are trying to address.

Ian's a man of faith. He's actually an Episcopal priest along with all his other roles.

And for him, the ache is an aspect of separation from God.

Now, that's his faith. It may not be yours. May not be mine. But in my experience myself, as a human,

and in walking with so many other humans, the concept of an underlying ache or a void,

I interest myself with that. I resonate with it, and I question it. So that's what this short episode is about, some thoughts and questions about this great human ache or void or what must be maybe troubling us beneath the surface.

Ian's book, his new book that was The Muse here, is called The Fix, How the Twelve Steps, Offer a Surprising

Path of Transformation for the Well Adjusted, the Down and Out, and Everyone in

Between. Then you can find him on his podcast, Typology. And I'm not having these conversations

about human potential. I'm working directly with people on their human potential. You can connect with me at

Kevin Miller.co. Here are a few sponsors. They help make the show possible, then drive with me a moment,

and we'll consider what voids we may be trying to fill. Let's see what we can learn for ourselves

today.

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So this great human ache. Now again, Ian started off talking about that and related it to a separation from God.

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