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The Promise

What You Can't Unsee

The Promise

Nashville Public Radio

Society & Culture

4.9777 Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2020

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

When Willie Sims’ daughter started kindergarten at a high-performing elementary school in East Nashville, all seemed well at first. His daughter loved her teacher. She was making friends. But then Willie realized: In a neighborhood with tons of Black families, his daughter was the only Black child in the entire grade.

Then he started hearing murmurings from other families, white families, concerned about the issue of resegregation. They were mobilizing. They wanted to push the school to acknowledge the fact that families of color were becoming scarcer and scarcer at the school.

In this episode, white parents start to see the problem. And once they do, they can’t unsee it.

The Promise is written and produced Meribah Knight. Edited by Emily Siner, with additional editing by Anita Bugg, Tony Gonzalez, Samantha Max, Sergio Martinez-Beltran and Damon Mitchell. Fact-checking and research by Sam Zern. Advising for this season by Savala Nolan Trepczynski and Alex Kotlowitz. Mixing by Jakob Lewis of Great Feeling Studios. The music is by Blue Dot Sessions.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Previously on The Promise.

0:06.0

Everyone's going about their business.

0:07.7

Like it's okay that we have an almost entirely white school within a mile and a half of an almost entirely black school.

0:18.3

I can't believe we're just doing this again.

0:23.6

You must decide, as Gerda put it, whether you will be an anvil or a hammer. Okay, I just want to do my levels.

0:41.3

Okay, one, two, three, four, five, one, two.

0:44.0

Introduce you.

0:44.6

What, Willie James, S. Jr., also known as Bigfellow, live from the east side.

0:51.5

It's going down at NPR.

0:53.7

Me and Mara been this thing.

0:55.9

We're trying to figure out what's going on.

0:57.8

What's the problem?

0:59.0

All up in Lachlan.

1:00.5

All right.

1:02.1

Gentrification.

1:03.4

Okay.

1:04.1

So we'll just start from the beginning.

1:07.9

Willie Sims' daughter, Nia, started kindergarten at Loughland in the fall of 2017.

1:13.9

His older daughter had gone to Warner Elementary, but it had started to really deteriorate.

1:19.5

The leadership was weak.

1:20.9

The resources were waning.

1:23.0

Behavior issues were on the rise.

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