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When a TikTok Influencer Dances, Who Gets Credit?

Popcast

The New York Times

Music Interviews, Music Commentary, Music

3.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2021

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Addison Rae’s appearance on Jimmy Fallon’s show sparked conversations about appropriation and how dance has been central to the platform. Guest: Taylor Lorenz.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the New York Times Popcast, your Dunkin' Scrunchy of music news and criticism.

0:06.1

I'm your host, John Caramacca.

0:14.9

You obsessed with Popcast?

0:23.2

Me too.

0:25.5

You know we're coming with the rare Addison Rae single.

0:28.6

It's called Obsessed, a lot of people talking about Addison this week, although perhaps

0:33.4

not for the reasons that she would have wanted.

0:36.0

That is her new song.

0:37.4

She was on The Tonight Show, which we found to promote that song among various other

0:42.8

ventures.

0:43.8

A caught a little bit of heat for doing a skit that involved some listless dances that

0:50.4

were TikTok dances and the skit did not credit the choreographers, which if you spend any

0:57.1

time on TikTok, you know that that is a verboten, and it's not how you do it.

1:01.9

He caused certainly one or two rounds of negative news cycles about Addison, but it really

1:08.4

to me spoke to a larger thing about how TikTok handles dance credits and originality and

1:16.4

the way that white influencers often get famous by using dances that were choreographed

1:23.1

by young black choreographers or just dancers, kids who are dancers.

1:27.3

And it got me thinking we need to have a big picture conversation about how dance and

1:32.6

choreography functions on TikTok.

1:36.0

And so you know if we are having that conversation, you know that there's only one person we're

1:39.7

talking to, Taylor Lorenz, Taylor, you are here.

1:44.8

Hello.

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