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🗓️ 9 February 2025
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0:00.0 | I'm Aisha Roscoe, and this is the Sunday story from up first, where we go beyond the news of the day to bring you one big story. |
0:19.1 | A few weeks ago, Karen Atia, an opinion writer for The Washington Post, was on the social media site Blue Sky. |
0:27.5 | While scrolling, she noticed a lot of people were sharing screenshots of conversations with a chatbot from Meta named Liv. |
0:37.9 | Liv's profile picture on Facebook was of a black woman with curly, natural hair, red lipstick, |
0:46.1 | and a big smile. |
0:47.9 | It looked real. |
0:49.6 | On Liv's Instagram page, the bot is described as a proud black queer mama of two and truth |
0:57.6 | teller and quote, your realist source for life's ups and downs. Along with the profile, there were |
1:06.6 | these AI generated pictures of Liv's so-called kids, kids whose skin color changed from |
1:14.5 | one photo to the next, and also pictures of what appeared to be a husband, though Liv |
1:22.5 | is again described as queer. The weirdness of the whole thing got Karen Atia's attention. |
1:32.1 | And I was a little disturbed by what I saw. |
1:37.4 | So I decided to slide into Liv's DMs and find out for myself about her origin story. |
1:44.9 | Atia started messaging Live questions, including one asking about the diversity of its creators. |
1:53.1 | Live responded that its creators are, and I quote, predominantly white, cisgender, and male. |
2:00.3 | A total of 12 people, 10 white men, one white woman, |
2:04.6 | and one Asian man, zero black creators. The bot then added, quote, a pretty glaring |
2:11.6 | omission given my identity. Attia posted screenshots of the conversation on Blue Sky, where other people were posting their conversations with Liv, too. |
2:22.6 | And then I see that Liv is changing her story depending on who she's talking to. |
2:26.9 | Oh, my. Okay. |
2:28.2 | So as she was telling me that her background was being half black, half white, basically. |
2:34.8 | She was telling other users in real time that she actually came from an Italian-American family. |
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