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You're listening to Code Switch. I'm B.A. Parker. This week, we're bringing you an episode

from a podcast called Pretendians, co-hosted by Robert Jago and Angel Ellis.

Their series looks at indigenous fraud and how it often undermines tribal sovereignty.

But there's no single foolproof method of determining whether or not someone is indigenous.

We've explored this on Code Switch before.

On this episode of Pretendians, we hear about different approaches to exposing people as

Pretendians and how sometimes those investigations cause more harm than good.

Here's Angel and Robert.

Angel, what's the worst thing that could happen with this series?

The worst thing that could happen is that our information is bad and the person is actually a

native. Could you imagine? I would just be like crawling under a rock and dying is what I would do.

Worst case scenario is that we get it wrong and then we look like goddamn clowns to

hundreds of thousands of people. And also like we've really screwed someone over. Yeah, that's the

kind of thing that will haunt you forever. A mistake like that is our worst nightmare. But it's also

someone's reality. Today's episode is about a pretending hunter who may have gone too far. It's about

what happens when pretending investigations go wrong.

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