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If Books Could Kill

Who's Afraid of Naomi Wolf? [TEASER]

If Books Could Kill

Michael Hobbes & Peter Shamshiri

Arts, Politics, Books, Society & Culture, News

4.68.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2024

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

We're finally discussing a good book! Naomi Klein's "Doppelgänger" chronicles the long, steady descent of another Naomi — Wolf (buddy oof) — from feminist icon to crank conspiracist.

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0:00.0

The wedding I was just at the groom is a decade younger than me. He doesn't even have the same type of glasses and or the same type of beard. We have only two things in common. He wears glasses. I wear glasses. He has a beard. I have a beard.

0:14.0

And people would just be looking at this and be like, you guys. You guys could be brother.

0:21.0

I like that the singers are just becoming a means for you to

0:23.9

complain about what happened to you this week. That's how I use the five four tops.

0:27.6

No, I know. It's clear, Peter. The best podcast I can make is very different from the ideal podcast in terms of what I want to make.

0:38.7

The podcast I want to make is just like, Peter gets on the mic and bitches about his life.

0:44.4

I turn it off and people for some reason pay for it.

0:48.0

If that could be my job, oh my God.

0:50.0

You're describing the Joe Rogan experience.

0:52.0

There are people who've made this work. All right, I'm just going to give this a world. Let's do it.

0:56.0

All right. Peter, Michael. What do you know about Doppelganger by Naomi Klein? I deeply empathize with being mistaken for someone else,

1:06.0

because everyone thinks that I look exactly like every other white man with a beard and glasses. Okay, so Peter, it's finally happening. We are talking about a good book.

1:30.6

This is the moment that all of our fans have been clamoring for.

1:35.5

I mean, I don't really know why we're covering this other than the fact that this is a book that I've been reading.

1:41.7

And it will be refreshing to talk about a book that I have some

1:44.8

quibbles with but in like a polite way I feel like a lot of the books that we talk about

1:50.4

on this show are we're trying to reveal the sort of conservative project or they're like

1:54.7

reactionary bullshit underneath them and Naomi Klein is not that person she's not like

1:59.7

a cryptocentrist like we're not talking about somebody who's like doing this I'm a liberal

2:04.8

but it's like no she's an actual liberal and she's dedicated her life to like defending

2:09.2

and promoting leftist causes. Yeah she wrote she wrote the shock doctrine. Yeah.

2:13.3

Good book.

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