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Thoughtworks Technology Podcast

Who should make software architecture decisions?

Thoughtworks Technology Podcast

Thoughtworks

Careers, Business, 907234, Technology

4.753 Ratings

🗓️ 26 December 2024

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Who should be involved in the process of making decisions about software architecture? That's a question that's been puzzling Thoughtworker Andrew Harmel-Law for some time — so much so that he decided to write a book about it. The result is Facilitating Software Architecture. Published by O'Reilly in December 2024, it's both an argument for and a guide to involving more people in the architecture decision process.

To discuss the topic and the book, Andrew joined hosts Neal Ford and Prem Chandrasekaran on the Technology Podcast. They explore why including more roles in software architecture matters today, some of the common objections to and risks of such an approach, alongside techniques and practices that can make doing it in fast-paced and dynamic organizations easier.

"It's quite magical when you see this blossoming of understanding of what it is that architects do... It's not less architecture, it's more. It's just happening in a broader sphere." — Andrew Harmel-Law

You can find Andrew's book on the O'Reilly website: https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/facilitating-software-architecture/9781098151850/

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome, everyone to another episode of the TalkWorks Technology podcast.

0:13.0

My name is Prem.

0:14.1

I'm one of the regular co-hosts of this podcast along with me.

0:18.3

I've got Neil Ford and Andrew Hamill Law.

0:22.0

Neil, do you want to quickly introduce yourself?

0:24.0

Indeed, thanks, Prem.

0:25.5

Hello, everyone.

0:26.8

My name is Neil Ford.

0:28.1

I'm another of your regular host.

0:30.2

And our guest today, I keep bumping into in person over and over again because I was

0:35.2

traveling in Europe some in the fall.

0:36.9

So welcome our guest

0:38.6

today, Andrew Holmell. Thanks, Neil. Thanks, Prem. Thanks for having me. Yeah, I can introduce

0:44.4

me so I'm a colleague of Prem and Neil. I'm a tech principal in based out of London in the UK.

0:51.4

Like I'm usually the senior technical person working with a client, so I get to do architecture,

0:56.9

but I get to do a bunch of other stuff too.

0:58.5

So that's typically what I do.

1:01.3

And the reason we keep bumping into each other most recently is that Andrew has just published

1:07.5

a book with O'Reilly, and that's what we're here to talk about today. So what is

1:12.8

the name of said book, Andrew? What's it about? So the book is called facilitating software

1:18.3

architecture. And it's about, it's based on the kind of premise that we need more architecture,

1:24.3

not less, as kind of as the software systems that we're building are

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