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How I Built This with Guy Raz

Whole Foods Market: John Mackey (2018)

How I Built This with Guy Raz

Guy Raz | Wondery

Business

4.831.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2018

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

In 1978, college drop-out John Mackey scraped together $45,000 to open his first health food store, "Safer Way." A few years later he co-founded Whole Foods Market — and launched an organic food revolution that helped change the way Americans shop. PLUS in our postscript "How You Built That," we check back in with Steve Humble, whose company Creative Home Engineering makes hidden secret passageways in people's homes ... just like in the movies. (Original broadcast date: May 15, 2017.) See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Hey, Prime Members, you can listen to how I built this early and ad-free on Amazon Music.

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0:09.0

New Year's is here, and with it brings the possibility of change.

0:13.0

As one behavioral scientist put it, first starts are really powerful.

0:17.0

So as you head into 2023, LifeKit is a great resource to help you plan your life and tackle changes, both big and small.

0:24.0

Listen to the LifeKit podcast from NPR.

0:27.0

Hey everyone, so it's Thanksgiving week, and at some point some of you might be killing time in a long line at the grocery store.

0:35.0

So we figured it was the perfect moment to rerun the story of how one grocery store in particular got started.

0:42.0

This episode first ran back in May of last year.

0:45.0

Oh, and one more thing.

0:47.0

On Thanksgiving Day, this Thursday, we're going to be posting another interview from the how I built the summit in San Francisco.

0:54.0

It's my live conversation with Adam Lowry and Eric Ryan of Method, and they're going to be talking about the chemistry of partnerships.

1:02.0

Okay, here's the show.

1:07.0

Venture Capitalists are like hitchhikers with credit cards, and as long as you take them to where they want to go, they will help you pay for the gas.

1:15.0

But if you don't take them where they want to go, they will try to hijack the car and throw you out on the side of the road.

1:23.0

So I did not trust the VCs. I liked them. I didn't trust them. I did not want them to take control of the company.

1:29.0

So I thought, we're going to go public, and then we're going to get the hitchhikers out of the car.

1:38.0

From NPR, it's how I built this. A show about innovators, entrepreneurs, idealists, and the stories behind the movements they built.

1:47.0

I'm Guy Raaz, and on today's show, How Life in a Vegetarian Commun inspired John Mackey to start Whole Foods and with it, an organic food revolution that changed the way Americans shop for groceries.

2:03.0

If you happen to step into an organic food co-op in the 60s or 70s, you would probably walk past aisles and aisles of bulk bins full of beans and brown rice and dried fruit.

2:21.0

There were no big brands, no stony field farms or nature's path, no amies or anis, and the people who shop in these stores, they were among a teeny tiny handful of Americans who even knew what quinoa or kale were.

2:35.0

And they were mostly counter-culture types, hippies, back-to-nature folks, my mom, and yet all of these people were at the leading edge of a food revolution that would start to sweep the country in the 1990s.

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