Some of it is down to culture and this tech pro culture that we see I think pervades all levels of the pipeline, not just at the entry level, but mid-career level as well.

The lack of access to relatable role models, So, you know, why would they choose these subjects

if they can't see anybody that looks or sounds or comes from their areas doing so?

We don't need any more mentoring. Women don't need fixing. We don't need any more roundtables.

We don't need any more benchmarkingables, we don't need any more

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Hello and welcome to the UKTM podcast, a weekly chat with the movers and shakings of the UK tech industry

and the destination for all things UK tech related. I'm your host, Jane Wakefield,

and joining me this week is Dr Claire Thorn, the co-CEO of Tech She Can, a charity dedicated to changing

the ratio of women in the tech industry. Welcome, Claire. Hi, Jane. Thanks for having me.

Now, I think whenever we do these programs about women in tech, we have to run through the stats.

Even though I find the stats a bit depressing, I've been working in the tech industry for many, many years.

And I think when I started, the ratio was something like 15%.

And there is a bit of an improvement on that, isn't there?

But it's not a huge improvement.

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