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The Pitchfork Review

Why HBO’s The Idol Is So Fascinatingly Bad

The Pitchfork Review

Pitchfork

Music, Music Commentary, Music Interviews, Music History

3.3844 Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2023

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Puja Patel and Jeremy D. Larson discuss the near hits and wild misses of the controversial pop-star drama with Features Editor Ryan Dombal.

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0:00.0

This is The Pitchwork Review. I am Pooja Patel, the editor-in-chief.

0:04.4

Today we'll be trying to wrap our heads around the much-talked-about, somewhat controversial HBO series, The Idol.

0:12.6

The show stars Lily Rose Depp as Jocelyn, a pop star trapped in the sleazy, unforgiving web of the music industry.

0:20.6

It also stars The Weekend as

0:22.5

Tadros, an abusive cult leader who takes advantage of Jocelyn and her fragile mental state. There's a lot

0:28.5

to unpack here, to say the least. There have been scandals around the show and a batch of reviews

0:33.1

that dub it as torture porn, skin crawling, and the worst show of the year. There's also been a

0:40.2

patch of new music from the cast alongside it. To get into all of this, I'm joined by Ryan

0:50.0

Domble and Jeremy Larson. Hello, friends. Hello. Hey. How's it going? I'm excited to get into

0:58.1

this show because I find it fascinatingly bad. Yeah, it seems like one of those shows that

1:06.6

may be more fun to talk about than watch. 100%. Totally.

1:11.5

100%.

1:12.0

I feel like we are generally fans of the weekend.

1:16.3

We will definitely sit with anticipation for anything coming from the weekend.

1:22.0

And so we were all curious about this show at the very least.

1:26.5

Then we started seeing trailers. Then we started

1:29.2

hearing early reviews and we were like, oh, no. I mean, the tagline for the show was that

1:36.0

it was the sleesiest love story in Hollywood. Is that correct? Yeah, it's about right. Yeah. I think

1:43.3

that was like the original tagline and then like they tried to undo that a little bit.

1:48.0

Uh-huh.

1:48.6

Well, Jeremy, why don't you just set the show up for us for people who haven't watched it yet?

1:52.2

So there's actually two versions of this show.

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