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Code Switch

Why now is the time to find power in "otherness"

Code Switch

NPR

Society & Culture

4.614.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Viet Thanh Nguyen came to the U.S. as a refugee from Vietnam when he was four years old. Growing up in San Jose, California, Nguyen remembers the moment he understood he was Asian-American. In his latest book, To Save and To Destroy: Writing as an Other, Nguyen examines the power in finding solidarity with other Others, especially in today's America.

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Johnny O'Hanson, Jr.

0:02.7

Join me each week on In Black America

0:04.6

as we profile current and historically significant figures

0:08.0

whose stories help illuminate life in Black America.

0:11.4

You don't want to miss the conversation.

0:13.6

KUT Radio and Black America are members of the NPR Network.

0:17.6

Thanks for listening to In Black America.

0:21.7

What's good? You're listening to Code Switch. I'm Gene Demby.

0:25.7

Viettenween's family brought him to the United States in the early 1970s when he was about

0:30.6

four years old. That's where my memories begin, howling and screaming as I'm taken away from

0:35.4

my parents. His parents owned a business in Vietnam, and then the war happened and upended their lives.

0:41.4

And they fled and found themselves trying to make a new life in this country, on the other

0:46.2

side of the world, and in a country that was so deeply implicated in all the bloodshed

0:51.3

and destruction back home.

0:53.4

Vietz family eventually settled in San Jose, California.

0:56.1

They opened a grocery store there, and Viet would grow up as an American.

1:01.0

To his parents' chagrin, he became an academic and a writer.

1:05.4

His debut novel, The Sympathizer, came out almost a decade ago,

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and the story follows this unnamed Vietnamese man

1:13.3

and his own in between space, living in L.A. among Vietnamese refugees and even working a little

1:18.4

in the movie industry, all while secretly spying on those same Vietnamese American neighbors

1:23.5

for the communists back home. The sympathizer became a huge hit. It won the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction.

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