Rise and shine fever dreamers. I'm Sammy Sage, and this is American Fever Dream, presented by Betches News,

where we explore the absurdities and oddities of our uniquely American experience. For our special Saturday episode,

I don't think we've ever had one of these before. We are going to be doing

a double header with two more epic NBC journalists, Katie Turr and Alex Wagner. Katie Turr is anchor of

the daily Katie Turr reports on MSNBC and a correspondent for NBC News who has covered Donald Trump

since he first became a candidate in 2015. She shared with us some

of the precautions that polling places are taking on the ground in order to make sure that we are

going to have a free and fair election. And in the second half of the episode, I spoke to

Alex Wagner, host of Alex Wagner tonight on MSNBC. She has been traveling around to swing states for the past

several weeks, and she's been speaking to the undecided voters who are going to be the ones to determine

the results of the election. She and I spoke about the hold that Donald Trump continues to

have on his followers and some of the emotional buttons that he's able to push to keep them in his thrall.

But will he be successful this time? And does MAGA have a successor? You will get to hear

all this and more in this episode. Katie, thank you so much for joining us. I am so thrilled

to get to talk to you. I know in person, too. I know. Last time we spoke,

I believe, was Zoom, but we are post-pandemic now. And I am so glad to get to talk to you about this

election and all of the coverage that you've been doing so far. So let's go back. You were

there when Donald Trump made his first candidacy announcement.

I was there a few days after. A few days after. So I was a foreign correspondent living in London.

And then he announced, I was back in town. You're like, I got to get back here now.

I know. No, and I was in town for something else. And it was like two days after he announced, they said, can you do a story on him?

All of his, maybe it was the next day, all of these brands are dropping him. He's being dropped by

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