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🗓️ 4 April 2025
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0:00.0 | Listener supported, WNYC Studios. |
0:10.8 | This is The New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker. |
0:19.9 | Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. |
0:23.4 | Invidia is a tech colossus. |
0:26.2 | It's as potentially important to the way we live our lives in the near future as Apple or Google. |
0:32.6 | Maybe even more so. |
0:34.4 | Invidia makes microchips. |
0:36.6 | In fact, it's all but cornered the market on the chips that are |
0:39.6 | essential for the use of AI, for artificial intelligence systems like chat GPT. And just recently, |
0:46.4 | it was rated the most valuable company ever. But this is not primarily a business story. It's a |
0:53.7 | story about the United States and China, |
0:55.8 | about who exactly is building the technology that shapes the future, our future. |
1:02.3 | About a year ago, journalist Stephen Witt wrote a stunning portrait in the New Yorker of Invidia |
1:07.1 | and its co-founder Jensen Huang. |
1:10.2 | Witt's new book on the subject is called The Thinking |
1:13.5 | Machine. |
1:17.9 | Stephen, in all the years we've been doing this show, I don't think we've ever sat down to talk |
1:22.9 | about a microchip company and the CEO of that microchip company. |
1:28.5 | And yet, invidia is incredibly important to all of our futures in somewhere or another. |
1:35.7 | Explain what Nvidia is and why it's so important. |
1:39.6 | When you interact with a system like ChatGPT, |
1:43.0 | like say everyone's rendering their image right now as Studio Ghibli kind of anime, it takes your request and it sends it back through a giant broadband data pipe to a huge data center. |
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