We do need to shrink our spending and we need to get a hold on the debt,

but it needs to be done in a way that you have the growth go first.

Otherwise, you're going to end up with less revenue,

which means you're going to actually widen the deficit and create a worse problem.

A no-good deed goes unpunished type of scenario.

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