Why we should be looking forward to a green future: an interview with author Dr Nathalie Tocci

The Green Alliance Podcast

Green Alliance

Environment, Uk, Farming, Green Alliance, News, Sustainability, Society & Culture, Government

4.9 • 34 Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2023

⏱️ 30 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Amidst a quickly evolving global political landscape, the scope of the green transition is constantly changing. Dr Nathalie Tocci is director of the Istituto Affari Internazionali and author of 'A Green and Global Europe', a book which affirms the inevitability of the green transition in Europe but sets out its complex social, economic and geopolitical challenges. Dr Tocci argues that these must be addressed head-on and collaboratively with other nations rather than in isolation. Our executive director Shaun Spiers spoke to Dr Tocci to discuss the book and its implications for how we approach the green transition. The episode covers the ramifications of the US Inflation Reduction Act, how we can ensure fairness in the move to green energy and why we are dealing with more of a revolution than a transition.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0	Welcome to the Green Alliance podcast. We are the charity and think tank that is all about
0:08.2	achieving ambitious leadership for the environment. My name is Sean Spears and I'm executive
0:12.8	director of Green Alliance. Today I'm talking to Professor Natalie Tochi, author of a fascinating book,
0:18.3	A Green and Global Europe, published by policy.
0:21.3	Dr. Tochi is director of Italy's Institute of International Affairs,
0:25.2	the Instituto Affairi Internationale.
0:33.6	So, Natalie, thanks very much indeed for doing the podcast.
0:36.7	You've written this great book,
0:37.9	a Green and Global Europe. It starts with a really optimistic statement about how the Green project
0:44.7	can kind of rejuvenate the EU project generally. You say, by painting its flag green,
0:51.2	the EU has found the recipe to help save the planet while reviving itself politically.
0:56.1	What do you just say a little bit more about the thesis and what brought you to write the book?
0:59.4	Well, thanks, Sean. Thanks for the invitation. I would say that the book starts from two,
1:04.7	in a sense, fairly basic premises. Premise number one, the energy transition will happen.
1:15.6	And it's not the first energy transition and it will not be the last, right? I mean, there have been many other transitions in the past, from wood to coal, coal to oil and gas.
1:21.6	They will be the transition away from fossil fuels simply because it will make economic sense and it will be driven
1:29.6	by technological change. Now, there is obviously a difference between this transition and previous
1:35.8	transitions, which essentially has to do with the fact that this transition is not, quote,
1:41.0	unquote, only driven by technology and market forces, but also, and perhaps
1:46.7	primarily driven by the awareness that we are in an existential crisis, which is the climate crisis.
1:54.0	And therefore, the speed and the complexity, also because obviously the world has become a bigger and more complex place
2:02.8	compared to how it was when previous transitions took place,
	...

Transcript will be available on the free plan in -738 days. Upgrade to see the full transcript now.

Previous episode | Next episode

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Green Alliance, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Green Alliance and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.