Why would you transition twice?

Beyond Today

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🗓️ 11 March 2020

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Most people who transition to another gender do not have second thoughts. In fact de-transitioning is thought to be relatively rare. There are no accurate figures revealing how many people reverse or change their gender, as academic researchers have never studied a large group of transitioning people over a long period of time – but some studies suggest that fewer than 0.5 per cent of trans people choose to return to the gender they were assigned at birth. Whatever the numbers, we know that more people are telling their stories. Around the world there are trans men and trans women who have decided to de-transition, and it’s often not an easy choice. Others have chosen to re-identify as non-binary or gender-fluid. We speak two BBC journalists, Linda Pressly and Lucy Proctor, who’ve made a documentary for the World Service called The Detransitioners. They’ve spent the last year talking to people who had transitioned, but then returned to their birth gender. Presenter: Tina Daheley Producer: Katie Gunning Mixed by Emma Crowe

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0:05.0	Hello, I'm Jacob Hawley and I'm very excited to say there are more episodes of
0:09.0	Jacob Hawley on drugs.
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0:14.0	meeting people involved on both sides of the conversation and both sides of the
0:17.8	law. This time we're going to be looking at a whole new set of issues and
0:20.9	topics including homelessness.
0:22.8	When you don't have a supportive family, sometimes community can come in the form of a drug dealer.
0:28.2	Prescription drug abuse.
0:29.6	Doctors were just handing out pills like candy.
0:32.2	Drug use in prisons.
0:33.6	If we were to write everyone off,
0:35.0	how can we have to make community safer?
0:36.9	Jacob Hawley on drugs.
0:38.5	Listen on BBC Sounds.
0:42.3	Hello, I'm Tina De Heely.
0:44.0	Welcome to Beyond Today from BBC Radio 4, where we ask one big question about one big story. Today, would you transition twice? Nice. I started having these thoughts, don't do it.
1:15.0	I didn't listen to the don't do it inspirations in my head and I just said,
1:21.0	I've come all the way here I paid the money and and I went through it.
1:27.0	It wasn't like I woke up one day and said I'm just going to the hell with 15 years of my life as a
1:37.0	a trans woman. It wasn't I didn't come to it as an easy decision.
1:52.0	I just like to start by saying most people who transition to another gender do not have second thoughts. In fact there's very little academic research on
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