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Hi, Benjamin here. Welcome to episode 10 of nature hits the books. In this episode, I'm joined by Eric Kirshenbaum, the zoologist from the University of Cambridge here in the UK.

Eric's book, Why Animals Talk, the new science of animal communication,

was published earlier this year. As its name suggests, it dives into the world of animal communication,

looking at how different species get their points across, why they do it the way they do,

and what insights they provide into our own use of language.

A few of the things we talk about on the podcast.

Eric, thank you so much for joining me today.

Thank you for inviting me.

So your book is called Why Animals Talk, not Do Animals Talk?

Why have you gone with this as a title?

It does seem quite definitive.

It does.

I mean, I would have thought, in fact, when most people ask me, why did you choose that title?

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