Will the World Lock Down Again in the Next Pandemic? Dr. Kevin Bardosh

American Thought Leaders

Jan Jekielek

Government, News, Politics

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🗓️ 1 November 2024

⏱️ 32 minutes

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“The COVID response caused much more harm than good. That’s my position on that, and I came to it by analyzing and reviewing huge amounts of academic research on all sorts of issues: excess mortality, effects on medical services, mental health, effects on the economy, poverty, food insecurity, education.”

In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Kevin Bardosh. He is a medical anthropologist and the director of Collateral Global, a London-based think tank focused on improving pandemic response around the world.

“Public health has always had this tension between the authoritarian position, and then the more classical liberal, civil society philosophy,” he says.

Four years on, what have we learned about our collective response to the COVID crisis? If another pandemic happened tomorrow, how would our societies react?

“There still is this very strong industry—a pandemic industry—that thinks that they did a great job, and that people that are criticizing them are spreading misinformation,” Bardosh says. “And I think that that really needs to change.”

We discuss the global fallout from the COVID lockdowns, from rising obesity to rising poverty.

“All educational gains since 2000 around the world were wiped out with the school closures,” Bardosh says.

Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.

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0:00.0	The COVID response caused much more harm than good.
0:03.0	Access mortality, effects on medical services, mental health, effects on the economy, poverty, food insecurity, education.
0:10.2	In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Kevin Bardash.
0:13.1	He's a medical anthropologist and the director of Collateral Global,
0:17.2	a London-based think tank focused on improving pandemic response around the world.
0:21.5	Public health has always had this tension between authoritarian positions and the more
0:25.9	classical liberal civil society philosophy. Four years on, what have we learned about our
0:31.1	collective response to the COVID crisis? If another pandemic happened tomorrow, how would our
0:35.9	societies react?
0:42.1	There still is this very strong pandemic industry that thinks that they did a great job and that people that are criticizing them are sort of spreading misinformation.
0:45.7	And I think that that really needs to change.
0:48.0	This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Yankee Kelleck.
0:53.4	Kevin Bardash, such a pleasure to have you on American Thought Leaders.
0:57.0	Pleasure to be here.
0:59.0	So you were recently on a panel at this Stanford Health Policy Conference. The panel was
1:05.0	pandemic policy from a global perspective. And it's incredibly fitting that you would be on a panel
1:10.0	with such a name because of your work.
1:13.6	So what have we learned about pandemic policy from a global perspective?
1:19.6	I think we've learned a lot of different things, but one of them is the policy domino effect.
1:23.6	And so what we saw with COVID, which was really an unprecedented event in so many different ways.
1:29.3	It was a crisis that we all experienced intimately in our lives.
1:32.3	Interestingly, the first really truly digital global crisis.
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