We always say the SDP's analysis of what our political opponents get wrong is that the Labor Party and the Liberals think about the country as a charity.

They think of some sort of charity or NGO. What is that? What are we can help next? They're not thinking about us.

They're thinking about how we can appear good and what we can do good in the world.

Honestly, Peter, they think about the country as a charity.

They view it as a charity. And the sort of libertarian zombie Thatcher rights see it as a shop.

But it's not a shop or a charity. It's a home. It's a home. When you start thinking about it,

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iron.com. Morning, William. Morning. Thank you for reaching out. Pleasure. I appreciate it.

I've been getting quite a few comments on our YouTube saying,

this is a right-wing podcast and this is the podcast version of GB News. And I was like, I've been

trying to reach people from the left and struggling. We spoke to George though, and obviously

you've reached out. So thank, thank you. Pleasure. Appreciate you coming in. I don't know much about the Social Democrat Party at all.

So we should probably just start there. Tell me about it. How old are you? 46. Right. Too young to know

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