When did that switch happen? Like you say you watch American Idol and you like I love I love that girl.

What happened or was there a certain moment? I would say the switch was that time period.

Really? Yeah. As much as it gave me, I lost a lot. The biggest criticism I had at the time was like the girls in high school.

You know, at your own high school? Well, you know, like just normal like teenage stuff.

And then I went on national television

and I was enlightened quick.

And I honestly, as confident as I was,

the music thing, I was always confident,

always confident on stage.

The one thing that I wasn't confident with was my way,

probably starting in like eighth grade,

is, because I became a cheerleader and I was a softball player before that and so I was not

built the same and it started really weighing on me and I started having problems with eating disorders

in middle school.

And then 10th grade, I go on American Idol.

And I was like in my very awkward chubby face.

And like, things were, things were things were it. It wasn't worked out quite yet. You know things were

it's also like in between being a teenager and a woman. That's like the age where I was like,

and people commented a lot on my way,

which what kind of evil humans can comment

on a 16 year old child is beyond me now, but as that 16 year old child is beyond me now but as that 16 year old child it got it got very bad for a while Laura and

Atlanta it's so great to have you on the podcast today.

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