Wondery Presents: Diss and Tell

Twin Flames

Wondery

Society & Culture

4.4 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2023

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

Savage subtweets. Scathing diss tracks. Tell-all memoirs. These are the weapons that celebrities use to wage modern social warfare against each other. Feuds between celebrities captivate us like nothing else. Why are there so many fights that play out for everyone to watch? How do public figures tap into the arsenal of weapons at their disposal to come out on top? And why do we have such a hard time looking away?

From Wondery, the makers of the hit series Scamfluencers and Even the Rich, comes Diss and Tell. Hosts Sydney Battle and Matt Bellassai take you deep into pop culture’s most iconic celebrity feuds, from Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan to Hailey Bieber and Selena Gomez. Sydney and Matt unpack who fired the first shot, what happened, and how cultural phenomena and hidden forces influence not only these battles, but also the world we live in.

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0:00.0	With Celebrity Beef, you never know if you're just going to end up on TMZ, trending on Twitter, or in court.
0:07.0	Wendrie's new podcast, Dis and Tell, is hosted by comedian Sidney Battle and Matt Bellasai, and each episode explores a different iconic celebrity feud, from the build-up, why it happened, and the repercussions.
0:21.0	What do our obsession with these feuds say about us? The first season is packed with a pretty messy love triangle between Selena Gomez and Justin and Hayley Bieber, a seemingly innocent tick-tock of Selena talking about her laminated eyebrows, snowballed into a full-blown alleged feud.
0:37.0	The internet wants to pit the two women against each other, but if you cut through the layers of PR spin, you'll find this is a conflict about three people who've been pushed into stardom since they were children.
0:47.0	But it doesn't seem like fans are letting up anytime soon, despite both Selena and the Bieber's making public statements denying any bad blood.
0:55.0	How much of this is teen jealousy in 20-something lovers quarreling, and how much of it is a carefully calculated narrative designed to sell albums?
1:05.0	You're about to hear a preview of Dis and Tell, while you're listening follow Dis and Tell wherever you get your podcasts.
1:18.0	Okay, Sydney, so I was scrolling through tick-tock as I do every day for hours at a time.
1:25.0	No judgment. I fell down this rabbit hole. I mean, that is sort of what tick-tock does to you, right?
1:33.0	Like, you watch one video, and then suddenly it's every video is just some version of that video.
1:39.0	I am deeply terrified of the tick-tock vortex. You should be.
1:45.0	What rabbit hole was it in particular?
1:47.0	So I was scrolling and there is this avalanche of fan theories and conspiracy videos about the latest beef between Haley Bieber and Selena Gomez.
1:59.0	Oh goodness. I'm getting the feeling that this is going to be absolutely wild.
2:04.0	That would be the correct feeling. It is wild.
2:08.0	Haley Bieber just blatantly copied Selena Gomez again.
2:11.0	Okay, so I think I've made Haley Bieber very upset.
2:14.0	Haley is obsessed with Selena and Selena already knows, and I'm going to tell you how I know this.
2:18.0	Does anyone else feel like they're going insane over this Haley Selena drama?
2:23.0	Tick-tock takes it to an extreme, but underneath it all, there's a real feud happening here.
2:28.0	Okay.
2:29.0	And it started ironically enough with this seemingly innocent tick-tock video of Selena Gomez talking about her laminated eyebrows going wrong.
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