Welcome back, everyone.

Our conversation with Michelle Obama continues.

I think your point about the fear, you know, it's so human to not want your children to hurt.

And it's interesting, I've never talked about this, but you're illuminating something for me that in my adulthood, my mom and I have been healing.

Because my mom went through a really, you know, my mom did not grow up the way I did. She did not have,

you know, the life that I did. She went through, you know, immigration with her own mother,

the classic beautiful Ellis Island story, but the reality was hard. And, you know, she lived in a housing

project in the Bronx and sometimes had nothing to eat

but a piece of bread and salt that she would make into a sandwich and my mom had such fear about

me suffering the way she suffered that there were ways she tried to protect me and it took a while

for us to come back around for her to not understand

why I was doubting myself in this really important moment and for us to unpack that I knew she

loved me but I didn't always think she trusted me. Yeah. And so I hadn't really learned how to trust

myself. Yeah. And in I hadn't really learned how to trust myself. Yeah.

And in that moment, we had this breakthrough as two women. And I learned about these things that

happened in her childhood that she had shame about, that she never wanted to tell me about,

because she never wanted me to be scared that it would happen to us because come hell or high water, she wouldn't

let it.

And it was this moment where she saw me as more human. I saw her as more human and we both were

like, whoa.

And then what will the next generation of children have because we have these tools?

And I think there's such beauty in your willingness

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