Hi everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to work in progress. With Smarties today we are joined by two guests that I I just I don't even know if I have the words to describe how excited I am that they're here I'm such a fan of their work

their sketch comedy their award-winning videos I mean me and you know 8 million other people who follow them across their social media

platforms and the 2 billion people who have watched said videos I'm not

exactly new on the discovery here but I am long on the adoration.

Today's guests are Kim and Penn Holderness.

They have been married for 18 years,

and over the past decade, they have become incredible online content creators and now they are on a mission as a duo and as parents

to reboot how we think about ADHD. They are bringing their trademark uplifting humor, which you probably saw on

the amazing race, here on their podcasts, have read in any of their bestsellers or, you know,

listen to on their videos they're bringing

that humor and their personal insights plus five years of research which you

know makes my brain feel excited. To share their experience with a condition

that affects millions of people around the world, attention deficit hyperactivity

disorder. Penn was in college when he was diagnosed and although the signs of having a

brain that worked differently had been there since he was a kid, he still had to go

on quite a journey to figure out as an adult what coping with his neurospicy brain looked like.

And as he researched how to do that, he realized he wanted to write a book. So they wrote this book together. They are

sharing it with fellow ADHDers and the people who care about them and as you know

one of the estimated 10 million people in America with a neurospicy

brain I am so excited that they are here and so excited to ask all of the

questions let's get to it. Well, hi guys, welcome, thank you so much for joining me today. Thanks for having us

for excited. Well gosh I mean you guys have obviously so much history you've

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