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Hello, creatives.

I'm Joanna Penn.

And this is episode number 781 of the podcast, and it is Sunday the 17th of November

24 as I record this. And yes, I'm back from author nation, hence my

voice. So in today's show, how can you write memoir with deep sensory detail? How does

terroir in wine equate to the writer's voice? And how can you manage your online presence

while still protecting yourself from

the haters? Multi-award-winning wine writer Natalie McLean shares her tips coming up in the interview

section. So in writing and publishing things, I haven't been keeping up with the news, but I am back from

Author Nation, which is the biggest conference for indie authors and indeed just business-minded

authors because there were also traditionally published authors there and people doing all kinds of

things. It is the biggest one in the world and yes, I am jet lagged. I got back last night. It is an eight-hour time difference.

So while I'm in Las Vegas, I'm usually up at like 2 a.m. And then by the time I get back, the mornings here are pretty hard.

You will also know, or I mean, everyone knows enough about Las Vegas to know it is difficult for introverts.

The noise, the lights,

the lack of decent sugar-free food. There's so much sugar in that town. But just as an overview,

I have already bought my ticket for 2025, which should tell you a lot. Every time I go to Las Vegas,

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