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🗓️ 9 September 2024

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Introducing Preparing For Trump’s Next “Big Lie,” with the Election Lawyer Marc Elias from The New Yorker Radio Hour.

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Of the sixty-five lawsuits that Donald Trump’s team filed in the 2020 election, Democrats won sixty-four—with the attorney Marc Elias spearheading the majority. Elias was so successful that Steve Bannon speaks of him with admiration.

Now Marc Elias is working for Vice-President Kamala Harris’s campaign, and, despite his past victories, Elias says that 2024 is keeping him up at night. The bizarre antics and conspiracy theories of Rudy Giuliani are a thing of the past, Elias tells David Remnick: “We should all expect that they are more competent than they were before. And also Donald Trump is more desperate than he was before. … He faces the prospect of four criminal indictments, two of which are in federal court.” Election-denying officials are now in power in many swing states; Trump has publicly praised his allies on state election boards. Elias fears the assault on the democratic process could be much more effective this time. Still, some things don’t change. “I believe Donald Trump is going to say after Election Day in 2024 that he won all fifty states—that there’s no state he didn’t win,” Elias says. “That is just the pathology that is Donald Trump.”

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0:00.0	This is the New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC studios and the New Yorker.
0:07.0	Welcome to the New Yorker Radio Hour.
0:12.0	I'm David Remnick.
0:13.0	In the fire hose of outlandish statements bursting out of Donald Trump,
0:18.0	like Mexico sending Hanam elector to the United States or
0:22.0	Kamala Harris becoming black just recently, well,
0:26.2	you might have missed something like this.
0:28.9	You don't have to vote, don't worry about voting.
0:30.7	The voting, we got plenty of votes.
0:32.3	You got to watch election night you
0:34.4	know it used to be election day election night now it's election month now it's
0:39.7	election period some of these things going for 53 days.
0:44.6	We've got plenty of votes, because in Trump's view,
0:47.8	he's always the winner and the election is always rigged.
0:51.1	In 2016, he said it was rigged until he won it. He claimed the 2020
0:55.7	election was stolen as he was desperately attempting to steal it. Now right up to
1:01.6	the January 6th insurrection, Trump's main strategy for denying his loss in
1:06.8	2020 was a barrage of legal challenges.
1:11.3	For Democrats fighting off those challenges, the tip of the spear was an attorney named Mark Elias.
1:17.0	He was so good, winning virtually every case that Trump's team brought,
1:21.0	that even Steve Bannon speaks of him with a sort of admiration.
1:27.0	Now Mark Elias is working for Kamala Harris's campaign and despite all his past victories he is really
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