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From W be easy Chicago this is Nerted. I'm Greta Johnson. We did it. We made it to another weekend.

Coming up, Cooking Queen, Sola L. Waili tells us about her new cookbook and the idea of

embracing failure when cooking. And I don't want you to give up on yourself or the recipe.

I want you to like evaluate what happened, think about it and try again because that's really how you become a much better cook.

But first let's sit back and unwind with two excellent humans.

With us this week is Lauren Chulgin, a senior reporter, producer and the host of the

NHPR podcast, The 13th Step, Lauren, hello.

Hi, Greta.

Also here is Anisa Halifa, she produces and hosts the W-U-N-C podcast The Broadside,

as well as Indie Podcasts, Flowers and Muslim in plain sight.

And Lisa, welcome to the show.

Thank you so much. This is very exciting.

Yay. Okay, so let's start this week with the new Scorsese film that is out.

It's called The Killers of the Flower Moon.

It's based on the non-fiction book by David Grant, and it's about a string of murders of

members of the Osage Nation in Oklahoma after large deposits of oil was found on

their land in the 1920s. It is over 400 minutes. It's almost three and a half

hours long and apparently some indie movie theaters have been offering intermissions for the film and they actually got in like a lot of trouble from the movie studios.

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