Good afternoon. Welcome to SAGcast number 30. And SAGcast is stories about the

secret war in Vietnam and other stories that spin off from that. And we want

to thank Jacco productions for making this possible in conjunction with SAG

Chronicles. And during my time we were in the secret war of a SAG and we

signed disclosures saying we will not talk about it for 20 years. And so

about 15 years after the war in Vietnam ended I was at a new stand and on the

front page of a magazine there was a huge picture of the SAG emblem saying

SAG. And there was a big story in the magazine. The magazine was soldier of

fortune magazine. And that was the beginning of a long history project of a

magazine that went on to over time print more than a dozen stories that were

actual, factual as opposed to a lot of the fiction and other media crap that

came out after the Vietnam war. In addition to that the other thing that

attracted me to soldier of fortune magazine was the fact that it was written for

Vietnam vets. It talked about the positive aspects of Vietnam vets at a time

when there was many disparaging things and lack of accurate reporting on the

courage of the Vietnam vets that fought in the war in Vietnam. Today is my

honor and privilege to introduce the founder and the publisher of soldier of

fortune magazine Robert K. Brown. Robert, welcome to the show sir. Thank you

much indeed. It's pleasure to be here and babble with you. We will babble on

sir. And I'll never forget that that day in the news rack. I said this can't be

out yet. And yet there you were with your magazine Jim Graves did a story. And it

was the first publication that talked about and then you went on of course years

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