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True Crime Bullsh**

Studio BOTH/AND

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.6 • 5K Ratings

🗓️ 4 April 2024

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Photos from Keyes's Constable home open up new leads, new ideas about Keyes, and old questions. Plus a look at encounters and attacks on college campuses across the country gives us insight into how Keyes was operating.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kim K.

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Transcript

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0:00.0	This is a studio both and production.
0:18.0	Did he say he had buried them or he was buried? Okay, you're talking about the prior and how did he tell you whether he had buried them or that?
0:22.0	What was your reaction to him being?
0:25.3	And do you know where he was, like what state he was in
0:27.7	when he called you?
0:28.4	And where would you think he might bury guns in Texas?
0:31.9	Well, I guess I'm trying to, what was your reaction? You know, and someone says I'm going to go bury my guns and I'm somewhere in Texas and he doesn't live there.
0:38.0	What, what, what, what, what, This is a true crime bullshit. I'm your host Josh Hallmark and this is a serialized story of Israel Keys. In April 29, 2009, 2012 interview with Kim, the FBI asked her about a call she received from Israel while he was in Texas.
1:14.0	Specifically, a call she received from Israel while he was allegedly stuck in the mud in Cleburn.
1:22.0	Here's what she said. I remember him calling me the night he got
1:26.7	stuck in the mud and couldn't make his flight. Like I definitely definitely
1:31.3	talked to him that night.
1:33.7	He called and said that he was stuck in the mud and he didn't have money for gas.
1:38.7	And he, um, his credit cards weren't working and that he had to call his family to come pick him up and
1:44.0	bring him money for gas or something.
1:46.5	So, and that he, you know, was going to have to change his ticket.
1:52.1	They then go on to ask whether he told her where he was or what he was doing when he got stuck in the mud.
1:58.0	And she says, somewhat nonchalantly, that he was burying his guns. He told you that? He always, you know, has done that. He's
2:10.3	always done that? What does that mean?
2:14.0	When he had guns in his property in New York,
2:18.0	he had them buried there because the property got vandalized and stuff.
2:22.0	Did he tell you this or did you see it? He told me I never saw it.
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