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True Crime Bullsh**

0618 | Summits, part 2

True Crime Bullsh**

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True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.65K Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2024

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Josh continues his look into the strange disappearance of Roger Jung. The team analyzes tips, reviews the Keyes timeline, data mines, and gets some help from the Everett Police Department.

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0:00.0

This is a crime bullshit.

0:25.8

I'm your host, Josh Hallmark, and this is a serialized story of Israel Keys. As we dove deeper and deeper into Roger Jung's disappearance, we felt there were three both equally likely and unlikely scenarios.

0:56.2

Roger had a climbing accident, Roger died by suicide, or Roger met with foul play.

1:04.1

The biggest problem in trying to understand exactly what happened, however, was that

1:08.7

online descriptions of the scene and rogers car didn't match the

1:12.9

descriptions included in the case files and usually i'd chalk that up to online gossip but there

1:20.1

were multiple posts on cascadeclimers.com and nw hikers.net from people who claimed to have been on the scene in the days leading up to

1:31.1

and following the Shalon County Sheriff's Office's recovery of Roger's Jeep. And all of their

1:37.3

accounts were the same. Roger had both signed into and out of the trail log. On October 27th of 2005, more than a month after

1:47.4

Roger is believed to have gone missing, meaning that he hiked the trail, completed

1:53.6

the hike, and signed out.

1:58.2

And Roger's climbing gear was in fact in his car.

2:03.4

And the fish in Rogers Jeep was a freshly caught fish, and not some pre-packaged store-bought fish.

2:12.6

As a reminder, the case files we received had no mention of the trail log and indicated

2:19.7

that Roger's climbing gear was not in the car, only that fishing gear was, and that all

2:26.1

of his climbing gear was present in his apartment.

2:29.6

They also described the fish as being a packaged trout, which, while slightly ambiguous, points more to

2:36.9

prepackaged than freshly caught fish. Now, these discrepancies could be a jurisdictional issue.

2:44.9

Roger was reported missing with the Everett Police Department, who handled his investigation.

2:50.6

But his Jeep was recovered from Chalon County, so the Shalon County Sheriff's Office handled the search

2:57.0

and rescue and Jeep recovery.

2:59.6

We have files from each jurisdiction, and it appears as though Everett PD never investigated

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