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🗓️ 23 April 2025
⏱️ 13 minutes
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0:00.0 | This is CBS, Eye on the World. I'm John Batchez. |
0:07.0 | I welcome my longtime friend and colleague Craig Unger, the journalist and book writer, of revelatory |
0:14.0 | episodes over these last 40 and 50 years to do with the U.S. presidency. |
0:19.0 | For example, Craig's new book is entitled, Den of Spies. |
0:24.4 | It is the backstory and four-story of the so-called October surprise of the election of 1980. |
0:32.4 | It saw Ronald Reagan successfully challenge President Jimmy Carter and win the presidency. |
0:38.5 | However, Craig has published over these last years several books that speak to presidential |
0:43.5 | candidacies. |
0:45.0 | And we turn now to continue a narrative that Craig introduced the last time when Donald Trump |
0:52.3 | was making his name in New York as a can-do man, |
0:55.9 | not only to take over hotels that were dilapidated and reviving them with the help of |
1:01.6 | what Craig has identified with sources as a KGB front providing television sets for the hotel, |
1:14.0 | but also Donald Trump to build the very famous and successful Trump Tower. This is the 1980s. We turn now to all of that payoff because |
1:21.4 | Donald Trump goes to its first trip to Moscow in 1987. He's been to Moscow. He's talked to people about building a Trump |
1:29.6 | Tower in Moscow, and he's come back in July of 1987. At this point, he's thinking about |
1:36.7 | planning to run for the presidency of the United States. Craig, at this point, Trump's idea of |
1:43.7 | running for the presidency, how did he imagine he was going to do that? |
1:47.7 | Was he going to choose a party? Was he going to run as an independent? |
1:51.2 | What preparation had he made? Good evening to you. |
1:56.4 | Yes. Well, at times, he did say he was going to run as an independent, but more frequently, it was as a Republican. |
2:03.6 | And in September of 1987, he went up to Portsmouth, New Hampshire, and he gave a rally. |
2:12.5 | And it was very much like the Trump rallies we've seen before his MAGA faithful, in which he was making all sorts |
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