Quick note before we start here, TGI Fridays was once a wild place, so this podcast contains

a little adult language and sexual content, and a few references to potato skins.

I was not what my father called a loose girl to go into the city and go to bars.

Ellen Lattman was 22 in living at home with her parents.

When I said I even thought about getting an apartment moving to the city, he said,

if you move to the city, I will not make you a wedding because the girls get very loose

when they go into the big city.

This was 1968.

She was working as a teacher on Long Island.

And friends called me and said, let's go out.

We're going to a bar in the city.

And I was kind of premon proper and I said, I don't go to bars.

I knew that people got together, gathered at bars and drank, but there was lots of talk

about not getting picked up at a bar because you don't know what will happen if you get picked up.

But her friends insisted, come to the Upper East Side they said, this place isn't like other bars.

She walks in in his pack.

It was a pile up in our for me.

I had never been to that kind of loud filled with people I knew from high school and college.

Young people standing three, four deep from the bar.

And then a big six foot tall guy walks over to Ellen and asks if she wants to go to a show.

Why? I said, you ask me out on a date and he said, no.

He said, you see that guy over there sitting in the corner?

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