I think a lot of people struggle after jail. I know people that they I know someone that was struggled with depression after Joe because he couldn't come to terms with being

not in that routine he was even because some people get institutionalized they get so used the one thing and then they can't adapt to change because on the

outside there's so much change going on and some people struggle little things but

a lot of it is financial I think a lot of people struggle with when you come out

it's it's the financial strain that people can can struggle with that plays a big part I think.

Hello welcome back. Oh you, hello you're at?

I'm good, how are you?

I always say the same thing every time, isn't it?

Yeah, we need to get you and you opener.

Yeah, well maybe that becomes your like, how you doing?

You're like, Joey from friends.

How you doing? So here we are, we've been released in our prison journey.

We're out of the gate, we've spent the first night and our respective homes.

Freedom... the first night in our respective homes. Freedom or is it? I think it's like often seen

as that's it you've your sentences done to the to the outside of they go well that's the easy

bit you're out but I don't think it is all that easy what do you for me and Rob we were

both on tag hdc. So I feel like you're definitely not free.

Because they, some people say, some people say it is, no, I'm free because I'm not in jail.

Some people look at it like that, like kind of go off of empty, or full kind of things.

It's definitely one of those, in it, yeah.

But some people look at like, fucking,

I'm still, I've still got to go probation.

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