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Hello and welcome to this special Saturday edition of Coffee House Shots, the Spectators' Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Petra Gibbons, and today I'm joined by Stephen Bush from the Financial Times, and for the

last time on this podcast as the Spectators, political editor, Katie Balls.

Now, Katie, some of us are still recovering from your not first, not second, but third and final leaving due last night.

I think an honourable mention has to go to all the staff at Che Antoinette for their send-off. They must have borne witness to many Katie Ball's

political rendezvous over the years. Regular listeners of this podcast will have been treated already

to having Daniel from Sherry Antoinette give his first ever interview, a word exclusive on this

podcast. And in a sign of where most of my expenses have gone over the past 10 years, they did give me an apron last night, which is the first time a non-staff member has got an apron.

And it does mean if my next job doesn't pan out and the spectator doesn't want me back, I have another option.

Well, in your final political column this week, you reflect on the 10 years that you've covered British politics at The Spectator, which incredibly is six prime ministers ago. What are your reflections when you look back over the past decade?

I think you go from joining in 2015, then going into that general election where the Tories won a surprise majority, the first Tory majority since

1992, you go from that to up to now and it's the worst ever Tory defeat. So in that time,

we have seen, obviously, as you say, various Tory leaders and Tory prime ministers,

but also I think there's a question of in what outfit, in what premiership did the Tories do the best.

And I think it was actually quite strange looking back when you speak to lots of ministers who've been in these governments is they look very fondly back on 2015.

And actually, perhaps even more fondly back on 2010 and

the coalition government as something which at the time was clearly unideal but meant there

were various checks and actually lots of the if you go and try and find some Tory

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