Hello and welcome to Catagance's Live. I'm Sikell at your host. Second day back. Still

so happy to be here. Thanks for taking the time to be with us wherever you are and whenever

you're listening. We're just awful glad you take the time to do it. And we have a really

special show for you this hour and next hour. This hour we welcome Cardinal Raymond Burr.

He'll be joining us for a conversation about the state of the Catholic Church. To help me in

that conversation, our good friend and colleague, Apologist Joe Heshmeyer. Hello, Joe.

Hi, it's good to be here. Joe, you're tired from having a child recently, but while you have

been tired and lacking sleep, the church has continued in her in her time of difficulty,

I would say. I was one way to put it. It's a confusing time to be a Catholic. How are you doing

in all of that, Joe? Yeah, you know, I do find one practical consequence is it's harder to keep

up with the news and there has been a lot of it recently. Yeah, and I hope to have a good conversation

about some of that. It is an odd time to be Catholic. Maybe this is a unique time to be Catholic. I'm

not sure, but confusion. In some places, even rebellion against the basic moral and doctrinal

teachings of the church, everywhere these days, in the midst of this, we're also experiencing the

synod on synodality, which we'll go for another year and following that, we'll get a document

about the synod or kind of emerging out of the synod from Pope Francis. The synod itself has

drawn both praise and criticism from every level of the church, including the very highest

levels of the church. In such confusing times, the church has mechanisms for seeking clarity

and among the leaders in using those mechanisms, among them dubia, which we will be talking about,

have been American Cardinal Raymond Burke. Cardinal Burke led the Archdiocese of St. Louis from

2004 to 2008. Before that, he was the Bishop of the Diocese of LeCrosse, Wisconsin, from 1995

to 2004, and that's where he founded the Shrine of our Lady of Guadalupe in LeCrosse, Wisconsin,

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