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Welcome to the Restis Politics leading with me, Alastair Campbell.

And with me, Rory Stewart.

And very happy to have with us today, a friend of mine, James Melika.

And James and I, in fact, have been to the South Pole together.

There we are, Alastair.

That's a big boast.

That's good.

Yeah, pretty chilly over there.

But the reason he's there is not as a polar explorer.

James is with us as one of the world's leading analysts and experts on AI, and actually

now leading a team that's been working on something called quantum computing.

James is originally a Zimbabwean, so he grew up in what was effectively apartheid Rhodesia as a young black man.

He then went to university in Zimbabwe after independence, got a road scholarship to Oxford.

He studied robotics, and he was right there at a pretty early stage of the AI development.

He's then gone on to do a series of really interesting things, which bring him, I guess,

in the intersection between AI computing, public policy, business. So he's worked for McKinsey. He's now vice president of Google in charge of

most of this stuff within Google, but he's also served on very important positions in the United States

government, with the United Nations,

with Harvard University, Oxford University and more universities than I can mention,

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