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Leading

115. Ben Wallace: Britain's mistake in Ukraine, Trump vs. NATO, and visiting Iran with Jeremy Corbyn

Leading

Goalhanger Podcasts

Politics, Government, News

4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2025

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

Why do some soldiers make bad politicians? What's the West doing wrong in terms of its policy towards the Ukraine War? How can Keir Starmer turn around the public perception of his Labour government? On today's episode of Leading Rory and Alastair are joined by Ben Wallace, Secretary of State for Defence from 2019 to 2023. Tune in to hear the former Tory minister answers all these questions and more. TRIP Plus: Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, receive our exclusive newsletter, enjoy ad-free listening to both TRIP and Leading, benefit from discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, join our Discord chatroom, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics. Instagram: @restispolitics Twitter: @RestIsPolitics Email: [email protected] Video Editor: Kieron Leslie Assistant Producer: India Dunkley + Alice Horrell Social Producer: Jess Kidson Producer: Nicole Maslen Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:43.1

Welcome to the rest of the sport is leading with me, Anastair Campbell.

0:46.2

And with me, Rory Stewart.

0:47.5

And today we have with us Ben Wallace, who was a conservative defense secretary, very, very central to Britain's response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, was a strong favorite to be leader of the Conservative Party and Prime Minister, chose not to go ahead with that.

1:11.9

Before that was security minister, which he can tell us a little bit about that job,

1:18.2

and was also a member of the Scottish Parliament, and before that was in the Scots' Guards.

1:23.8

He was a professional soldier for seven years.

1:27.0

He's somebody I've known for many years

1:29.2

because he was one of my neighbours in Scotland and he was a member of the Scottish Parliament.

1:34.6

And I'm very happy to have him, or we are very happy to have him with us today. Thank you for coming

1:39.2

on. I think you're inviting me. Nice. So are we three Scots with English accents?

1:44.6

That'd be right.

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