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Today's a special one because I get to chat to not one but two friends.

After 150 or so episodes, it's nice to be able to shake things up a little

and today I'm talking to the guys at

Crawl space podcast that's Lance Reinsteerna and Tim Piliary they talk twice a

week in their podcast about all sorts of mad mysteries, oddities and

true crime stories. They're known for being extremely knowledgeable on all these things

so I thought I'd put some questions to them.

We talk about the case of Mora Murray who went missing and her cases delved into very much

in their other podcast missing Mora Murray.

We speak about the legend of Mothman, much to Lance's dismay,

but Tim loves a bit of Mothman mystery. But we also delve into why people enjoy true crime, what it is about these stories that we like to

solve or or if it gives us sort of practice for a zombie apocalypse or whatever it is,

you know there has to be a reason that people are so engrossed with or by true crime.

We get into the social psychology and I share some of the stuff I've learned from psychologists

who came on this show. It makes for quite a nice dynamic three people

on the podcast and I think it turns into more of a nice chat than a hard-hitting interview.

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