1607: Growing up with Teal Swan - Diana Hansen Ribera

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2022

⏱️ 217 minutes

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Summary

Teal Swan is a highly controversial New Age guru with millions of online followers. Teal specifically markets her services to vulnerable, often suicidal individuals, and advances highly controversial and/or damaging beliefs and techniques including:

Encouraging graphic suicidal ideation.
Nurturing false memories and false accusations of ritual abuse by family members through thoroughly debunked recovered memory techniques.
Waterboarding as a trauma treatment.
Downplaying the severity of death by suicide by likening it to “hitting the reset button” into a future reincarnated life.

Teal’s practices are covered more thoroughly in the recently released Hulu series entitled “The Deep End.” Several deaths by suicide have been attributed to Teal’s practices.

In today’s episode we interview Diana Hansen Ribera, who was one of Teal’s closest childhood and adolescent friends. In her interview, Diana provides thorough detail to challenge Teal’s false claims of being a victim of satanic ritual abuse and sex trafficking as a child, and explains how Teal developed her coercion skills and harmful techniques with Diana — that Teal would eventually employ on a broader scale.

Warning: This interview contains graphic and disturbing content. Viewer and listener discretion is advised.

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0:00.0	Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories Podcast. I am your host for today,
0:05.7	John DeLin. I am super excited for today's episode. It is June 3rd, 2022. And today I'm so excited
0:13.6	to have back writing shotgun as a co-host, the Samantha Shelley. Hey, Sammy. Hi, John. Welcome back.
0:20.0	Thank you. I'm excited to be here. You'll recognize Samantha from my original interview with her
0:26.0	and Tanner Gilliland, losing Mormon millennials. She's also one of the two or three main figures
0:32.5	in Self on the Shelf, which is an amazing YouTube channel. She also does life coaching for people
0:37.7	in faith transition and for other types of things. So Samantha and we've had you recently come back,
0:42.9	you and Tanner, to kind of do kind of like an update. So Samantha, you're you're an important
0:48.9	friend to me and to Mormon stories. So does that have a good enough of Nitro? Yeah, thank you.
0:53.2	If you want to add brilliant. No, okay. All right. Well, today's episode is near and dear to my heart
1:00.4	in kind of a sad, dark, but important, profound way. And I'll just give as short of an intro as I
1:07.0	can as I studied psychology and mental health got my PhD in clinical and counseling psychology.
1:13.6	I studied a lot about good and bad forms of mental health. And today we're going to be talking
1:18.6	about Teal Swan or Mary Teal Bosworth, which is her birth name. Teal Swan is at this point
1:26.4	world renowned sort of new age guru, I would say. She's got like 1.5 million followers on YouTube
1:33.6	and on Facebook last I checked. And there's a new who series out called the deep end. It's three
1:39.4	episodes in. I think there's four total episodes. But it shows Teal Swan behind the scenes.
1:45.6	When you find out about Teal Swan, usually you're sad, you're depressed, and you're googling,
1:51.2	trying to get support for, you know, mental health. And oftentimes her niche is sort of
1:56.4	providing herself as support for people who are suicidal. And when you stumble upon her stuff
2:01.4	and start watching her videos, you'll get kind of a mishmash of pop culture, new age,
2:08.3	secular Buddhism kind of stuff. But then there's a lot of energy and crystal and chakra kind of talk.
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