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All day. All right. Well, thanks for being here, man. Appreciate it.

Pleasure, absolutely pleasure. Tell everybody who you are and what your

background is. Okay, my name is Chris Mellon,

and I spent about 20 years working for Uncle Sam,

worked in the Senate for the Intelligence Committee,

and for Senator Cohen also did some Armed Services Committee work.

When he was asked to become Secretary of Defense, he asked me if I would like to go with him to the Pentagon,

be part of his team, and I was honored and gladly accepted. So I then served for

four years in the Defense Department with Senator Cohen, Secretary Cohen at

that point in various positions, all intelligence related, and security related.

And then I was asked to stay on after Clinton departed and so I worked for Secretary Rumsfeld.

And then went back to the Senate Intelligence Committee as the Minority Staff Director shortly before the Second

Iraq War.

So when did you get interested in the subject of UFOs?

That happened at a surprisingly early age.

I was seven years old at a boarding school and the principal of the school

a friend of his had photographed video, an old real-to-reel-reel-codac movie camera,

taking a movie, a home movie of a video of a UFO flying in beautiful blue skies, cumulus clouds, huge golden disk that comes into the picture

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