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PRETEND

2011: I Married a Narcissist part 1

PRETEND

Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.7 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of PRETEND, we meet “Ashley”—not her real name—who recorded hours of arguments with her husband in an effort to understand what was happening inside her marriage. From the outside, it looked like petty spats over groceries or laundry. But when you hear the audio, you realize this was something darker. Ashley’s husband was emotionally abusive, manipulative, and battling addiction. It wasn’t until COVID lockdowns that his mask slipped and she could see who he really was. He used suicide threats to control her, drained her financially, and isolated her from support. And yet, as is often the case with narcissists, everyone else thought he was the victim. This is not one of the most outrageous stories we’ve told on PRETEND—but it’s one of the most common. It’s a story many people quietly live through and struggle to name. This is what emotional abuse sounds like. 🛑 Warning Signs of Narcissistic Abuse: Constant criticism or belittling (often about “small” things like chores or tone of voice) Love-bombing followed by extreme withdrawal or cruelty Gaslighting: making you question your memory, reality, or emotions Isolation from friends, family, or support systems Walking on eggshells to avoid setting them off Financial control or sabotage Using guilt, blame, or self-harm threats to manipulate behavior Alternating between praise and punishment Jealousy of your attention—especially toward children 📌 If you’re in a similar situation, here are resources that can help: National Domestic Violence Hotline (U.S.): 800-799-7233 or thehotline.org — Free, confidential, 24/7 Psychology Today Therapist Finder: psychologytoday.com Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services (SAMHSA) Helpline: 1-800-662-HELP (4357) Narcissist Abuse Recovery Support: DomesticShelters.org – Includes emotional abuse filters One Mom’s Battle: onemomsbattle.com – Focused on divorcing narcissists and protecting children Love is Respect (for younger listeners): loveisrespect.org Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Today's story is not the most sensational story you've ever listened to on this podcast,

0:50.3

not even by a long shot, but it's probably one of the most common.

0:56.1

In this series, which I call The Sham, we get to hear from listeners, everyday people like you who share stories about the liars, cheaters, and narcissists in their lives. This is my

1:02.5

conversation with Ashley, not her real name, by the way, and her emotionally abusive husband.

1:08.4

It's quite convenient that you're seeing here now being quite competitive and videotaping me.

1:14.6

Yeah, I've been videotaping you for the last 30 minutes and I haven't been a bitch.

1:19.6

Okay?

1:20.6

Ashley recorded hours of her arguments with her husband.

1:24.6

And at first blush, they seem like really silly little arguments that we all have

1:29.2

with our spouses. But in reality, what we were listening to was a woman at her breaking point.

1:36.8

I think that stories like this are important for people to hear because these are the more common stories.

1:42.9

They are. Narcissists are everywhere.

1:45.7

You know, they're not all like Ladanas or you know what I mean like? You're not all

1:49.6

Ladanas. They're not all Ladanas, but I'll tell you what. He and Ladana would dance. Oh yeah.

1:55.3

Or kill each other. Yeah, or become a super narcissist and get here with the whole world.

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