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The Katie Halper Show

209- Desanctifying the Defense State with Marcie Smith and Max Blumenthal

The Katie Halper Show

Katie Halper

News

4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2019

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

Marcie Smith, and adjunct lecturer in economics at Jon Jay (CUNY) questions the sanctification of Gene Sharp, who has been called the "Machiavelli of nonviolence," and portrayed as apolitical. Smith talks to me about her recent piece, published on NonSite called "Change Agent: Gene Sharp's Noeliberal Nonviolence", which looks at Sharp's noeliberal ideology and his role as a defense state intellectual and Cold War champion. This I play the audio of a book talk I attended by Max Blumenthal about his latest book The Management of Savagery How America's National Security State Fueled the Rise of Al Qaeda, ISIS, and Donald Trump.

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Mr Deputy Speaker,

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Speaker, dear Ward recipients, excellences, ladies and gentlemen.

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My name is Anita Brodien.

0:10.0

I'm a member of the Swedish Parliament and represent the Liberal Party.

0:13.7

It's a great pleasure for me to introduce Dr Jean Sharp, born in Ohio in United States of America. Dr Sharp has for a very long time worked for nonviolent

0:27.5

solution and democracy. He was jailed for nine months protesting constriction in the Korean War

0:35.8

1953. He witnessed China's Ternanam Squareprising in 1989 and snuck into a rebel camp in Burma in the 1990s.

0:50.1

Dr Jean Schock is very well known also as an author of a handbook for nonviolence actions.

0:59.0

From dictatorship to democracy, this handbook is now translated into 34 languages.

1:07.0

The Wall Street Journal describes this man as having had a broad influence on international events helping to advance a global

1:19.1

democratic awakening.

1:21.6

I want to welcome the academic writer and Machiavelli of

1:27.8

nonviolent resistance. Dr. Jean Sharp, the floor helper show. Today I talk to Marcy Smith about Welcome to the Katie Helper Show.

1:52.8

Today I talked to Marcy Smith about the very Gene Sharp

1:56.3

you just heard being introduced.

1:57.8

So this episode is a little bit different

1:59.4

because I combine the interview I did with Marcy Smith

2:02.4

with audio that I recorded at a book talk given by friend of the show Max Blumenthal in April around his latest book, The Management of Savagery.

2:12.6

These two things are related.

2:14.5

Max's book focuses on the Middle East,

2:16.6

but as listeners know, he's done really important reporting

2:20.0

on and from Venezuela.

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