something I'm extremely proud of is to date. There's no there's nobody behind exo just

Lenny and I making the decisions. There's no investors. There's no anybody pushing for this.

It's just us. I think it's fairly unique. Probably a lot of people don't realize how many

companies have investors behind them that need to see profits. And for us, it's always, it's always been take care of the product, take care of the customer,

and then everything else will take care of itself.

So, you know, Well, welcome to the Huntback Country podcast. This is episode number 219. Before we dive into the show, I wanted to thank Dean KJ for leaving us an iTunes review. Dean, we want to send you some Exo Mountain Gear and Hunt Backcountry

podcast swag. So send us your shipping address to podcast at Xomountaingear.com. And listeners,

if you want to enter to these giveaways, it's really simple.

We just want to hear from you, whether you leave a review in iTunes or contact us directly

with your suggestions for a topic or a question that you want to hear about.

Some of you, I'm sure, have been tuning into our TSS episodes during this COVID pandemic,

and those episodes are really driven by the content you guys want to hear about.

So again, we appreciate hearing from you and wanting to know what you want to hear

discussed on those shows.

You can email us directly at any time to podcast at exoomountaingear.com.

In today's full episode, it's myself and Steve, joined by ExoMountain

Molynegear co-founder, Lenny Nelson. Lenny has been on the podcast throughout the years, isn't a

regular participant, but is always someone that you guys want to hear from and that we get requests

to have on the show. Lenennie and Steve co-founded

Exo Mountain Gear, and today we kind of dive into that story about the origins of Exo Mountain Gear

and where we are today. In many ways, not much has changed, although certainly many things have.

This isn't a product sales pitch or even really about the packs, but more about the

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