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#228 - Annie Jacobsen: The Pentagon's Horrifying NUCLEAR WAR Strategy revealed

Danny Jones Podcast

Danny Jones

Society & Culture, Documentary, Comedy

4.4777 Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2024

⏱️ 186 minutes

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Annie Jacobsen is a Pulitzer Prize finalist and New York Times bestselling author. Her newest book Nuclear War: A Scenario looks deep into the heart of the nuclear military establishment & is based on dozens of exclusive new interviews with military and civilian experts who have built the weapons, have been privy to the response plans, and have been responsible for those decisions should they have needed to be made. EPISODE LINKS Pre-order Nuclear War: https://bit.ly/49LmMU6 https://twitter.com/AnnieJacobsen https://anniejacobsen.com SPONSORS https://ketobrainz.com/pages/djp - Use code "DANNY20" at checkout. https://betterhelp.com/dannyjones - Get 10% off your first month. https://bubsnaturals.com/DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off. https://rocketmoney.com/djp - Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. PATREON: https://patreon.com/dannyjones FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjoneshttps://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - Writing 05:37 - Sources 08:35 - Nuclear war protocol 19:14 - Operation Paperclip 38:15 - Billy Waugh's briefcase nuke 40:00 - Otto Ambros 46:07 - Kurt Blome 50:52 - Science & morality 01:00:47 - CIA's original black site 01:03:32 - Walter Schreiber 01:05:15 - NASA 01:09:34 - UFOs 01:14:49 - Annie's take on UFOs; Strategic deception 01:23:36 - Nuclear secrets 01:29:41 - Public deception 01:38:01 - Human terrain mapping; first platoon 01:40:28 - Annie's "Deal" with CIA 01:48:39 - EG&G scientist "alien" medical experiment 01:59:55 - Inside DARPA 02:08:28 - Pentagon hired Sci-Fi writers 02:14:07 - Paramilitary assassins; Billy Waugh 02:29:40 - War VS Covert action debate 02:42:17 - Mechanics of Nuclear War 02:51:57 - The interceptor system 02:55:25 - EMP's 02:59:52 - Doomsday plane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Before we start this podcast, I just want to say thank you to all the new subscribers to the channel.

0:04.6

If you have not yet subscribed, please hammer that subscribe button below the video and enjoy this podcast with Annie Jacobson.

0:13.1

M-M-M-W-hmm.

0:19.8

Do you just start writing about something that's interesting and does it like evolve into this

0:25.5

idea of a book or do you sort of pick what you want to write a book about and then go backwards

0:32.8

like reverse engineer it from there like for example with area like, what was the first thing that drew you into

0:38.6

that story?

0:39.6

Yeah.

0:40.6

A job.

0:41.6

Like, I wanted a job.

0:42.6

I wanted to write a book so badly.

0:44.1

That was my first book in the world of journalism.

0:47.2

We call it long form, right?

0:48.9

And every, I mean, who isn't dying to write a book?

0:51.3

Look, it's the most amazing profession. I mean, not only do I

0:55.3

write, which is just part of it, because I'm a nonfiction author and a reporter, I write about

1:02.5

people that I interview. And so that part of it is extraordinary, you know, just being able to

1:10.7

get the stories out of these fascinating people.

1:15.1

And the way Area 51 came to me was the journalist Lucky Break. You know, I was reporting,

1:21.3

you know, short form, right, where you're kind of like doing the 500-word articles and I'd been

1:26.4

writing on terrorism because that's what was going on in the early 2000s.

1:31.2

And there was a, let me get this straight.

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