#2295 - Scott Payne

The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan

Comedy

4.6 • 228.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2025

⏱️ 167 minutes

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Scott Payne is a retired FBI Special Agent who spent 28 years in law enforcement investigating cases against drug trafficking organizations, human traffickers, outlaw motorcycle clubs, gangs, public corruption, and domestic terrorists. He is the co-author of the book "Code Name: Pale Horse: How I Went Undercover to Expose America’s Nazis" and the subject of the podcast "White Hot Hate: Agent Pale Horse," both created in collaboration with journalist Michelle Shephard. https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Code-Name-Pale-Horse/Scott-Payne/9781668032909 https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/1031-white-hot-hate Join Visible by visiting visible.com/rogan and experience all-digital wireless with nothing to hide, with plans starting at $25/mo. Visit LifeLock.com/JOEROGAN to save up to 40% off. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Joe Rogan podcast checking out.
0:04.0	The Joe Rogan Experience
0:06.0	Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night all day.
0:12.0	You've had a crazy fucking life, man.
0:14.0	Like a really crazy life.
0:16.0	You spent, so to get everybody up to speed right from the beginning,
0:20.0	you spent 25 years undercover working for the FBI in the clan, Nazi organizations, and biker gangs.
0:29.5	And then some, yes, sir.
0:30.9	What a crazy, crazy life that is.
0:35.5	First of all, how did you get, how did you first get started doing that?
0:40.3	Good question. I grew up in South Carolina, played ball, all that stuff. I, I was always kind of a, I mean, if you look back, not trying to be cocky, whatever, because that's not it. You've had plenty of people on this show that are complete badasses.
0:55.9	But I was kind of a bully of bullies.
0:58.1	I always looked out.
0:59.5	I liked the underdog.
1:01.8	I bounced in college.
1:03.7	So I was already learning that gift of gab and fight techniques and stuff like that.
1:09.3	And then I got, I became a cop because when I was in college,
1:12.8	I took a course, I'm taking electives. I went to college so I'd have four more years to figure
1:16.8	out what I was going to do. Because I didn't know what I was doing. Me too. Except partying.
1:20.8	Except, you know. I did three years. I was good at partying. But I hit an elective that was criminal justice, and man, I really liked it.
1:31.5	Psychology was always a strong thing for me, but it took a back seat, and I ended up coming
1:37.5	out with a major in criminal justice and a minor in psychology.
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