Hey everybody, it's Joe. Before we get started today, I want to quick point out that we've now

been making the trap set for five years. Having the opportunity to make this show has been

nothing short of life-changing. So I want to thank my co-producer and editor, Chris Karwowsky,

all of my amazing guests, and all of you for listening for all these years. Now let's do the show.

This is Joe Wong.

Welcome to the Trap Set.

I want to play something for you.

I want to play something for you. You're hearing cry by my guest, Money Mark.

An artistic polymath, Mark's brilliant keyboard playing can be found on seminal recordings

by dozens of artists, such as the Beastie Boys, Beck, Jack Johnson,

and Omar Rodriguez Lopez.

Mark's also made several albums as a multi-instrumental solo artist.

He's a skilled carpenter.

He's a deep and unique thinker in possession of an extraordinary sense of empathy,

and he's the inventor of groundbreaking musical devices.

I spoke to him last month in Pasadena, California.

And now my conversation with Money Mark.

I can't get next to you.

I don't really try.

That's why I wrote this song. That's why I cry.

It's the best of times and the worst of times.

You've heard that like forever.

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